06-04-2008, 03:09 PM | #111 | |
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Making it personal? When you make false claims about what my church believes (ostensibly it's still your church too, but that assumption seems to be more in question with each passing day), YOU make it personal. |
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06-04-2008, 03:14 PM | #112 | |
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LDS believe they have "truth" - whether it's authority, doctrine, or a more complete knowledge of the plan of salvation. Fine. I'm not disputing that, and I personally might even believe most of that. My point is that many LDS testimonies use words like "I know" or "I testify" while consciously avoiding facts. This is a paradox to me. I have no problem with people saying "I believe strongly" or "I felt God speak to me." I do have a problem with "I know for sure, but will refuse to acknowledge or incorporate any facts that contradict what I know." I think I'm done here, so don't bother with "FU we're done."
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06-04-2008, 03:17 PM | #113 | |
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And then I was fine. I could use the words that I was comfortable with, I could approach it from my angle. I had a wise mission president. |
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06-04-2008, 03:46 PM | #115 |
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Sure wish SeattleUte hadn't derailed this thread. I was looking forward to a discussion on the views of BoM geography.
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06-04-2008, 09:40 PM | #116 | |
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