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If someone chooses not to, whatever the reason, that is their choice. It's not the gov'ts responsibility to ensure happy marriages or make sure people make the correct choice about it. Quote:
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On the legal side of course that isn't the issue. It is whether there is a fundamental right to such under a state constitution and the answer is very clearly yes under many of them. But just because corporations don't pay taxes in Nevada, for example, doesn't mean they should be tax exempt in Virginia. Let the states decide.
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Why does the government recognize and promote marriages?
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I don't know what you mean when you say marriage is a right. Like driving, voting, or any other privilege of citizenship, it comes with reasonable limitations placed on it by the state. It's open and available to all people subject to those limitations. And the long-standing definition of marriage does indeed count for something, even though you think it only goes back "a few decades."
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To the person of their choosing? Or is that not part of the freedom to marry?
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