03-30-2015, 02:57 PM | #1 |
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An article in SL Trib yesterday about churchy lobbyists in Utah
and how they pressure (or don't pressure) members of the Utah state legislature.
One of the guys said he was pressured to support the gay anti-discrimination bill, but he was confused. The church was asking him to support something that they didn't want applied to themselves. Sort of a do as I say, not as I do thing. It's really a strange time. A church that wants to pass anti-discrimination laws while at the same time lobbing anti-gay marriage firebombs in terms of rhetoric. I don't get why "defending the family" necessitates attacking secular gay marriage. I've never understood it. People like SleepinginEQ essentially called me craven in my arguments against it. Intellectually dishonest. So wise, that one. Why can't we stand for something positive, and just leave it at that. |
03-30-2015, 06:27 PM | #2 |
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I've rented rooms to gays, who gives a crap. I've used the women's room at KMart when I really had to go (and I didn't even cross-dress), who gives a crap.
The Church, on the hand, is screwed if it has to perform same-sex weddings or lose its tax-exempt status. |
03-30-2015, 06:29 PM | #3 |
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Mullahs in the legislature were also why the Church doesn't do anything about abortion.
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03-30-2015, 08:16 PM | #4 |
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The culture wars are so ingrained in the church now, I think it's hard-pressed to distinguish the rhetoric from that of Baptists and Evangelicals.
Do we think we get extra brownie points with Evangelicals if we out-anti-gay them? Why is this our focus? We already drive out all the gays from our congregations. We certainly don't try to reactivate them or baptize them. Why do we give a flip if they want to get married? I'm just so sick of it. It's such a waste of time. It's a boogeyman and a distraction and completely worthless. |
03-30-2015, 09:15 PM | #5 |
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Can you post the article? Cause I don't know see how we're trying to out-baptist the baptists.
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03-30-2015, 09:33 PM | #6 | |
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http://www.sltrib.com/news/2343339-1...-and-beware-of
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03-30-2015, 09:34 PM | #7 |
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