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They discussed giving apostles "emeritus" status during the David O. McKay Presidency. It's discussed in the DOM book. They decided on giving seventies emeritus status, but not Apostles.
Can you imagine any better way to inject politics into the functions of the church than by providing a way to remove members of the quorum of the 12? Yikes.
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Given there are usually 15 apostles or so, it's highly unlikely that all would be mentally incapacitated at the same time.
I still don't know what "keys" would be missing from a junior apostle that wouldn't allow the church to function. |
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Even when all 15 are up and running at full capacity, there's still a lot of work to be done at the office. It's a pretty intense workload-- especially considering that some of them could have retired decades earlier.
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However, I don't pretend to know how all the keys of the apostleship work. Quote:
Joseph's death was obviously unexpected and provisions for his succession were shaky at best. When was the first time the "call for life" was taught as open doctrine?
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Who makes the emeritus decision for the seventies? I generally assume they make it for themselves, but maybe that's wrong.
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President Hinckley was called as an extra counselor because Richards and Romney were suffering from Parkinson's and because Kimball was incapacitated by fluid on the brain. After his surgery in 1979, Kimball's son commented that his father wondered why the Lord wouldn't let him die, and then became progressively unaware of his surroundings until he was totally gone mentally. |
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As late as April 1983 (one year before Oaks and Nelson's calls), we have him saying the following in conference, re: President Kimball: Quote:
Does that include calling new apostles? Interesting question. It's of course possible that Kimball took a phenomenally bad turn in the ensuing 12 months, or perhaps Hinckley was exaggerating (unlikely, IMO), but that April 83 description does not fit a man who is completely mentally incapacitated. Or, at least a man so incompetent as to be unable to sanction the calling of new apostles. But as I said, I don't pretend to understand all the keys of the apostleship. In the end, I'm not sure it's possible to know how much Hinckley conferred with Kimball anyway. The two men who know best are both dead. But I maintain that Hinckley deciding more or less on his own to call and sustain two new apostles seems a little out of character. Choosing to believe that Kimball was at the very least aware of the move is the more logical route, IMO.
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