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But doesn't that by extension also mean that race can be an important factor in deciding who to vote for without at the same time being racist, or does the gate not swing both ways?
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They can only be racists if they are more numerous than some other minority and have racist sentiments towards that other minority.
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Isn't it a matter of motivation, negative or positive? If a white person votes for Hillary because the motivation is to vote against Obama because he is partially black, then that would be racist. If a black person votes for Obama because he is black, that doesn't seem racist, his/her motiviation is positive affirmation.
Hence, I am led to believe that SU is a religious bigot when it comes to Mormons because I have read him many times here claim a person's religious beliefs are a legitimate reason not to vote for that person (often made while disparaging Mitt). This makes SU and Huckabee perfect soul mates.
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I see little problem with people voting for someone based on that person's religious beliefs or lack thereof. Okay, so now throw out some crazy scenario that I can't possibly defend. But please keep it close to your reasons for not voting for a Mormon ("How can anyone vote for someone that believes this crazy stuff?").
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belief is a choice
belief reflects judgement Skin color is not a choice skin color does not reflect judgement Making a decision to vote for or against a person based on their judgement and choices is ok in my book. Making a decision to vot for or against someone based on the color of skin is not ok in my book. Religion and Race are not = |
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The law does not allow for me to make hiring decisions based on religion. FWIW companies indirectly make hiring decisions based on religion all the time. If the Jewish man won't work on the Sabbath, he may not get the job. If the Mormon guy won't work on Sunday, he may not get the job. If a muslim fundamentalist applied at our firm and we felt that he would not work well with a woman boss, he would not get the job. Reasons other than religion are sighted for not hiring these people, but religion is unofficially a factor because of how it shapes the candidates behavior. The same is true for voting. People will give other reasons for not voting for a candidate that is a member of a "fringe religion", but it is often because the candidate's beliefs shape their behavior in a way that the voter is not comfortable with. I have no problem with this at all and it is not equal to racisim. |
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