08-20-2009, 08:34 PM | #21 |
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Cali thinks the WA coop is in the same boat as the new proposed coops. He forgets that there are supposedly 40 million new people that will be getting insurance. Not to mention all the businesses that shed insurance and leave their employees to fend for themselves.
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08-20-2009, 08:44 PM | #22 | |
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Government does it better is their mantra. I wonder if that's their philosophy in the bedroom as well.
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08-20-2009, 09:46 PM | #23 | |
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Also, the public option would be fantastic for people who have employer-based care (cheaper for same coverage). What's the problem? For some, a co-op would also be cheaper (perhaps in New York, California, etc.), but for many others it wouldn't (Montana, Wyoming, etc). |
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08-20-2009, 11:13 PM | #24 | |
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"Can't work." which is suddenly NO WE CAN'T! Let's play a game here and pretend that the "public option" will have vastly better administrative costs. Let's say 10%. So you save that 10% initially in the first year. Then what? What prevents the curve from shooting upward, what prevents 8% annual increase in expense? This is the question that liberals won't answer. But I'll answer it. Rationing of care, either through denying care explicitly or implicitly. Implicitly by paying so little to providers, that you won't be able to find a provider to take care of you. Like I said, it doesn't matter. There won't be a public option. It's all academic. And then we will have people like Cali who deny co-ops to people, over the fact that they would rather have pure socialism rather than indirect socialism. |
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09-03-2009, 03:05 AM | #25 |
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Told you that there was no way there was going to be a public option. Discussion about it was and is purely academic.
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