08-20-2008, 02:27 PM | #11 |
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I don't see any reason to capitalize douche or prick. I don't think they apply to him more than you in any case, but don't get distracted: it is a grammatical point I'm making here.
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08-20-2008, 02:30 PM | #12 |
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Wrong messenger.
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08-20-2008, 02:44 PM | #13 |
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Actually, I think he brings up a valid point. If gender orientation is natural and immutable, either in the case of heterosexuality or homosexuality, it has serious repercussions in the discussion over same sex marriage.
SU may not think it deserves close attention, but the American Psychological Association apparently disagrees, as do those hateful Evangelical hacks in the Log Cabin Republicans and the right wing fringe fanatics at Mother Jones.
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08-20-2008, 04:19 PM | #14 |
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And by the way . . . still waiting on your explanation as to why hundreds of gays insist that their orientation was their own choice.
http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...&postcount=143
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That some gays choose their orientation does not mean that others do not. It proves nothing except that some gays choose their orientation. SU's point has the most logical coherence b/c he raises the discussion to the general level of sexuality, instead of going down one layer to hetero- and homo-. And so from that level, if heterosexuals do not choose their orientation, why is it not likely that homosexuals do not choose theirs either?
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Let's use your figure of "hundreds" and call that 999 persons. The proportion of gay persons whose orientation would be their own choice, in this scenario is 0.00000504 which is 0.000504%. So let's get this straight, you are demanding an explanation about the 0.000504% of gays that chose their own orientation? If you don't like these numbers, present your own, and we can discuss the differences. |
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I'm surprised that women can be attracted to men, let alone men. I'm positive that if I was a girl I would be gay.
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