12-09-2009, 03:22 PM | #1 |
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Public Option dead!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_384591.html
Public option dead, a victory of sorts. But it looks like they're trying to sneak it in the back door.
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12-09-2009, 07:47 PM | #2 |
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Public option / single payer isn't dead. Any compromise "against" merely means that its advocates have agreed to a temporary delay.
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It's not been proven that government manages services more efficiently than the private sector. It's not been proven that government services are of equal quality to that of private services. It's not been proven what the alleged numbers of non-voluntary uninsured are, due to costs or pre-existing conditions. The only "proof" is that it will cost at least $1 Trillion Dollars. And if past overstatement regarding program costs are any indicator, i.e., Medicare, it should really about ten to one hundred times that. Glory Be, Hallelujah! There is a perception of a problem which is inaccurately stated for purposes of creating a hysterical rush to a solution which is really no solution. May history curse Obama for his fraud and deceit!
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In the sake of saving you some effort, here are a few: http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009...re_journey.php http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Cont...th-System.aspx http://www.urban.org/publications/411984.html http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc1078...0-Premiums.pdf http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3022 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072802114.html http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...ave_healt.html |
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Rasmussen: 51% against, 41% for. Quinnipiac: 52% against, 38% for. Gallup: 49% against, 44% for. Of course, these polls were probably done by 6-year-olds with crayons.
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So government is going to try cost containment. Lol. Good luck with that. The only modification which could make a difference would be the medical profession's change of philosophy from a fee for service to a results oriented modeling. But then again that would come from the professional orientation not from government's heavy hand. Does anybody see the irony here of government cost control? Medicare, Government's great social experiment created the financing for costs spiraling out of control, so now the Great Conspirator says, "we're going to control costs by spending less after we make it available to everybody universally." Yep, that's destined for great success.
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the strategy is 1) increase access, 2) wait for costs to implode, and then 3) trot out single payer as the only possible solution.
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