07-18-2008, 04:21 PM | #81 |
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Only a moron would look at that decision and say "Yes you can keep a gun, but you can't keep a loaded gun."
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That is pushing the envelope in a major way, yes, and it will probably get struck down, but it's not in direct defiance of the Supreme Court's decision. I'm waiting for you to actually read the opinion and show me where it is. At the end of the day, all the Supreme Court held is that you can own a handgun in the home. They didn't say you could take it outside; they didn't say you can keep it loaded at all times . . . You don't understand how constitutional law works. As you like to say, go back to the kiddie pool. It's obviously a bit deep out here for you.
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Levin, per your reading of the ruling, can DC ban ownership of handgun ammunition?
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07-18-2008, 04:37 PM | #84 |
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No. And the DC law doesn't do that. You can only use the ammunition in limited circumstances.
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until the murder and assault and rape rates are 0 for five years straight in DC, there is a reasonable threat.
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I think this is a legitimate argument, and one that the lawyers challenging the law will make, and one that a court will use to strike down the law. But I think the ammunition restriction will fall for a different reason than basing it in self-defense: it neuters the right to own a gun in the first place. What good is a bow without an arrow? While some ammunition restrictions will certainly be upheld (no loaded guns in some public spaces, etc.), one that applies to the home won't be, I don't think.
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SUre you can. rifles/shotguns are fine clubs and handguns are awkward brass knuckles.
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So someone breaks into my home, I guess now I'm in reasonable danger? "'Scuse me, Mr. Criminal, can you hold on just a sec while I load my 38? Thanks a bunch!"
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