For the record, AWs

[Archaea]

i don't have one and have never really wished to pay the tax to own one, but if I wanted one, I would like that right.

I am qualified to operate them though, and even my sisters are, even though they probably own no weapons.

I hate the term conjured by the Calis "assault weapons" in the first instance, as I believe the proper terminology is automatic or semi-automoatic weapons.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Archaea

i don't have one and have never really wished to pay the tax to own one, but if I wanted one, I would like that right.

I am qualified to operate them though, and even my sisters are, even though they probably own no weapons.

I hate the term conjured by the Calis "assault weapons" in the first instance, as I believe the proper terminology is automatic weapons.

I think you are mixing up terminology here.

The tax stamp is for machine guns, i.e. fully-auto. I believe it is $200. The main problem there is the limited supply, making the guns outrageously expensive.

There is an excise tax on complete rifles. But it is not too bad. And can be avoided in guns like the AR, where you can buy them in halves or pieces.

For the history of the phrase "assault weapon", see the wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think you are mixing up terminology here.

The tax stamp is for machine guns, i.e. fully-auto. I believe it is $200. The main problem there is the limited supply, making the guns outrageously expensive.

There is an excise tax on complete rifles. But it is not too bad. And can be avoided in guns like the AR, where you can buy them in halves or pieces.

For the history of the phrase "assault weapon", see the wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Thanks.

[MikeWaters]

Do yourself a favor. Lose the sissy stone beard and get yourself a black rifle.

It is your duty as a citizen.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Do yourself a favor. Lose the sissy stone beard and get yourself a black rifle.

It is your duty as a citizen.

I may or may not have weapons, but whatever i may or may not possess is not for public discussion. I don't have an "assault weapon," and I' don't have a machine gun, too expensive in the day of the Grand Depression. I wonder what people in the 30s will refer to our current Grand Depression.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I may or may not have weapons, but whatever i may or may not possess is not for public discussion. I don't have an "assault weapon," and I' don't have a machine gun, too expensive in the day of the Grand Depression. I wonder what people in the 30s will refer to our current Grand Depression.

"And they will say, do not go against Zion. For Zion is mighty.*"

*except Archaea, who doesn't have a rifle.

At this rate, we may be more likely to march on Jackson County in my lifetime than win a NCAA tourney game.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

"And they will say, do not go against Zion. For Zion is mighty.*"

*except Archaea, who doesn't have a rifle.

At this rate, we may be more likely to march on Jackson County in my lifetime than win a NCAA tourney game.

If a person owned things, and a government wished to take them away, the first thing he should do is to disclose ownership.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Archaea

If a person owned things, and a government wished to take them away, the first thing he should do is to disclose ownership.

I know people like this.

They will not buy guns from gun dealers, because of the background check and paper trail. Only on the used market from private sellers.

No doubt, they also don't donate to RKBA causes, or otherwise lift a finger to preserve their rights, in the public forum and debate. They cowardly seek after their own salvation, the rest of us be damned. As if the gun trade, conducted in the way they do it, is sustainable.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I know people like this.

They will not buy guns from gun dealers, because of the background check and paper trail. Only on the used market from private sellers.

No doubt, they also don't donate to RKBA causes, or otherwise lift a finger to preserve their rights, in the public forum and debate. They cowardly seek after their own salvation, the rest of us be damned. As if the gun trade, conducted in the way they do it, is sustainable.

I don't have a problem donating time or money to the NRA or RKBA causes, and my family, not just myself has done so on more than one occasion. But I don't believe everything you own should be broadcast. OTOH, people own weapons like it's a state secret and you want to run from after you see their cache are not ones I wish to be around either. I have no desire to be in the company of somebody with grenade launchers, IEDS or anything inherently dangerous and unmanageable. There are some real weirdos out there as well.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I don't have a problem donating time or money to the NRA or RKBA causes, and my family, not just myself has done so on more than one occasion. But I don't believe everything you own should be broadcast. OTOH, people own weapons like it's a state secret and you want to run from after you see their cache are not ones I wish to be around either. I have no desire to be in the company of somebody with grenade launchers, IEDS or anything inherently dangerous and unmanageable. There are some real weirdos out there as well.

I don't know that we are too far apart, honestly. You simply don't view assault weapons as inherently dangerous and I do. Neither of us view grenade launchers as appropriate or protected by the Constitution. Mike and IPU apparently do, if they hold to their belief that arms which are standard issue to military units are constitutionally protected.