The Obama Cult

[SeattleUte]

I went to a charity fundraiser last night and it seemed about everyone had just come out of democratic caucusing. There was widespread entusiasm for Obama expressed such as I've not seen for a candidate since Reagan. I felt like I was in the Joseph Smith building for an evening function following General Conference (you all know how I love dogma).

Listen up, Tex, the rest of you "I might just sit this one out because I'm so mad Romney flamed out" types. You'd better steel yourselves because the Obama cult is coming. Where I am there's nothing I can do to stop it.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I went to a charity fundraiser last night and it seemed about everyone had just come out of democratic caucusing. There was widespread entusiasm for Obama expressed such as I've not seen for a candidate since Reagan. I felt like I was in the Joseph Smith building for an evening function following General Conference (you all know how I love dogma).

Listen up, Tex, the rest of you "I might just sit this one out because I'm so mad Romney flamed out" types. You'd better steel yourselves because the Obama cult is coming. Where I am there's nothing I can do to stop it.

It is a frightening thing to behold. It's almost like a bunch of women masturbating with a bunch of vibrators after an Oprah meeting, or whatever her sychophants call it. He would be tougher to defeat than Hillary, but Texas will do him in, as Latins don't really like him. The "enthusiasm" which the mob mentality creates scares me, in that it takes thinking adults and makes them into anti-thinking idiots.

Republicans still must stick together to fight the socialist scourges of Hillary or Obama.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Archaea

It is a frightening thing to behold. It's almost like a bunch of women masturbating with a bunch of vibrators after an Oprah meeting, or whatever her sychophants call it. He would be tougher to defeat than Hillary, but Texas will do him in, as Latins don't really like him.

Archaea, the increasingly misogynist undertones in your posts are becoming quite disconcerting.

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As an Obama supporter, I am most disappointed in how few Obama supporters actually know anything about their favored candidate. A remarkable number of swing supporters actually think he's a moderate. I had one woman insist that he's really an independent..."he just ran Democrat because he needed the party support."

I'm also really bothered by the racist mentality I hear from white Obama supporters. "I'm going to vote for Obama because I think his presidency would be a great thing for his people. Plus, we owe it to them."

But, as YOhio points out, it won't really matter why his supporters are supporting him. A vote is a vote. And if he runs against McCain, it's youthful eloquent idealism against elderly curmugeony war-monger. It'll be a tough battle for the GOP, but he represented their last best hope. If Hillary wins (which the party establishment will do its best to ensure) and assuming Bloomberg doesn't run, McCain would fare much better.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Archaea, the increasingly misogynist undertones in your posts are becoming quite disconcerting.

I agree. Thanks for saying that. Archaea, it's for your own good.

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

As an Obama supporter, I am most disappointed in how few Obama supporters actually know anything about their favored candidate. A remarkable number of swing supporters actually think he's a moderate. I had one woman insist that he's really an independent..."he just ran Democrat because he needed the party support."

I'm also really bothered by the racist mentality I hear from white Obama supporters. "I'm going to vote for Obama because I think his presidency would be a great thing for his people. Plus, we owe it to them."

But, as YOhio points out, it won't really matter why his supporters are supporting him. A vote is a vote. And if he runs against McCain, it's youthful eloquent idealism against elderly curmugeony war-monger. It'll be a tough battle for the GOP, but he represented their last best hope. If Hillary wins (which the party establishment will do its best to ensure) and assuming Bloomberg doesn't run, McCain would fare much better.

I think I agree Obama would be a tougher opponent for McCain.

The racism your criticising is of course classic liberal piety.

[ute4ever]

I wonder what kind of Bush vs. Gore-esque litigation will ensue when the delegate winner finishes with less than 1% more delegates than the other. As the challenges of processes smear the democratic convention and the party in general, the smooth and collected "I am Ronald Reagan reincarnate" McCain takes a lead, increases the lead, wins the election, and Al Queda shows their displeasure with the new U.S. President's decision to keep meddling in others' affairs.

Courtesy of the U.S. legal system.

[myboynoah]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I'm also really bothered by the racist mentality I hear from white Obama supporters. "I'm going to vote for Obama because I think his presidency would be a great thing for his people. Plus, we owe it to them."

What, are we back in middle school now? "Oh how cool that would be!!!!!"

I don't know about Obama as a GE candidate. He's pretty much been given a free ride during the primary because no one is really challenging him. The Repubs will slice him up pretty good. They'll focus on his liberal voting record, his lack of experience in everything, his naivete in foreign affairs, etc. Pat Buchanan on MSNBC smiles just thinking about what is coming. Perhaps he is superman and everything will bounce right off, but not because he has better ideas. It will be because "he makes us feel good." Our nation is sick.

I tend to agree with Chris Matthews who described a McCain-Obama contest as very volitile in terms of hard to predict. Obama is pretty much a shell right now. Who knows what's inside there.

Either way, if he can rid us of the Clintons, we should think of giving him his own momument on The Mall.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

What, are we back in middle school now? "Oh how cool that would be!!!!!"

I don't know about Obama as a GE candidate. He's pretty much been given a free ride during the primary because no one is really challenging him. The Repubs will slice him up pretty good. They'll focus on his liberal voting record, his lack of experience in everything, his naivete in foreign affairs, etc. Pat Buchanan on MSNBC smiles just thinking about what is coming. Perhaps he is superman and everything will bounce right off, but not because he has better ideas. It will be because "he makes us feel good." Our nation is sick.

I tend to agree with Chris Matthews who described a McCain-Obama contest as very volitile in terms of hard to predict. Obama is pretty much a shell right now. Who knows what's inside there.

Either way, if he can rid us of the Clintons, we should think of giving him his own momument on The Mall.

If the Republicans were running a conservative, you might have a point. But they are running McCain, hardly a conservative. He has yet to "slice" anyone up.

[myboynoah]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

If the Republicans were running a conservative, you might have a point. But they are running McCain, hardly a conservative. He has yet to "slice" anyone up.

I think he went after Romney pretty aggressively. Of course that only accentuated his "angry old man" personna.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

What, are we back in middle school now? "Oh how cool that would be!!!!!"

Possibly. I've heard adults - even rather oldish adults - express very similar sentiments. Here's a quote: "Well, I'm really a Republican but I just don't want to miss the chance to be a part of this!"

A part of what, exactly? Do you even know? Can you articulate it in racially neutral terms? Nope, I didn't think so.

I don't know about Obama as a GE candidate. He's pretty much been given a free ride during the primary because no one is really challenging him. The Repubs will slice him up pretty good. They'll focus on his liberal voting record, his lack of experience in everything, his naivete in foreign affairs, etc.

Now, here I disagree. If you watched the Democratic debates over the last year, Hillary and the mods have both been after him. The media may be a different matter entirely, but he certainly hasn't had a free pass in the debates. For the most part he holds his own quite well.

You mention the Repubs will slice him up. This is actually increasingly the argument Hillary's using for why you should vote for her. "Yeah, I know nobody likes me, but at least that's already a known factor. We don't know how many people will dislike Obama once the GOP is through with him."

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

...They are running McCain, hardly a conservative. He has yet to "slice" anyone up.

Yup. Plus I find it hard to believe that McCain - brilliant orator that he is - could slice anyone up, no matter how vulnerable the competition. As Noah points out, when McCain tries to go on the offensive he just comes across as the curmudgeonly, slightly confused old man. He'll need someone to do the talking and make the arguments for him. (Hint for McCain: skip Huckabee.)

[creekster]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

As Noah points out, when McCain tries to go on the offensive he just comes across as the curmudgeonly, slightly confused old man.

For some reason, I find this quality to be most endearing. GOP should stand for Grouchy Old Poop.

Pardon me while I go tell those kids to get off my grass.