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03-03-2014, 12:10 AM | #1 |
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keeping the faith in Provo
http://www.firstthings.com/article/2...faith-in-provo
Anyone have a copy of this? |
03-04-2014, 03:51 PM | #2 |
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I have a copy now. Just need to read it.
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03-04-2014, 04:45 PM | #3 |
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Read it, don't like it.
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03-04-2014, 09:01 PM | #4 | |
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Here's an excerpt:
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03-05-2014, 12:39 AM | #5 |
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I read it.
He articulates a complaint, leaves us hanging about who the alliances are and what the alternative is. I agree with you and note that the article was long on verbiage but short on substance.
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03-05-2014, 02:15 AM | #6 |
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I felt like he was setting up a false dichotomy--that you can either have secular success or "religious" success, but you can't have both.
Imagine if BYU were to promote professors based on their testimonies rather than their scholarly work. "This guy has an amazing testimony. Mixes in humor, then gets to tears without fail." How in the world would this be measured? Wouldn't this reward the great fakers among us? Requiring that BYU faculty be temple recommend holders is already a pretty high bar. Now what? And let's face it, there has been A LOT of dead weight among the BYU faculty. Esp. those hired in the 1970s when there were slim pickings. And don't even get me started about how they grade the seminary classes that they call religion courses. After you read the article, you get the impression that if someone were to say that they opposed gay marriage they would be driven out of BYU. Give me a break. What a doofus to make that appear to be the case. |
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03-05-2014, 06:41 PM | #8 |
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Did you guys buy the article? I'd like to read it too.
Hancock is one of the anchors of conservative Mormonism and although he is divisive, he is good at goading secular-minded intellectuals to question their assumptions.
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03-05-2014, 09:43 PM | #9 |
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PM me with an email address.
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03-07-2014, 04:17 PM | #10 |
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Googling the title we are the only place on the first page where this is being discussed.
I wish I had the time to do a proper critique of this article. |
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