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RockyBalboa · 08-08-2008, 06:38 PM

I wasn't sure if this belonged under Religion, Politics or Current Events since it's applicable to all 3.

Anyway, a student at the Sunstone Symposium had the guts to bring this topic up. I applaud her efforts.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3962657

Runner Coug · 08-08-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Anyway, a student at the Sunstone Symposium had the guts to bring this topic up. I applaud her efforts.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3962657

If she really had guts, she would have brought it up when she was still a student, not after she left.

Mrs. Funk · 08-08-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Runner Coug

If she really had guts, she would have brought it up when she was still a student, not after she left.

This is probably true. People are willing to bitch about it but not do anything to try to change it because they'll get kicked out. The honor code is absurd, but I'm willing to deal with it as a grad student for the cheap tuition.

TripletDaddy · 08-08-2008, 07:34 PM

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If she really had guts, she would have brought it up when she was still a student, not after she left.

That's a funny observation to be posting on this site.....ground zero for muttering under one's breath about everything in life but not doing a single thing about it.

Jeff Lebowski · 08-08-2008, 07:59 PM

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That's a funny observation to be posting on this site.....ground zero for muttering under one's breath about everything in life but not doing a single thing about it.

Speaking of funny (i.e., dumbass) observations. How could you possibly know what everyone is doing in their private lives?

TripletDaddy · 08-08-2008, 08:03 PM

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Speaking of funny (i.e., dumbass) observations. How could you possibly know what everyone is doing in their private lives?

You are right.

I am sure many people here are standing up and protesting all the things they find objectionable about the Church.

My bad.

Where is this weekend's protest?

Tex · 08-08-2008, 08:03 PM

What a bunch of bull. When people say "change the Honor Code" it simply means "let me wear a beard."

Let's have a quick look at this oppressive code:

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Be honest

Wow. Controversial.

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Obey the law and all campus policies

The nerve!

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Live a chaste and virtuous life

Inconsistent with church doctrine, no?

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Respect others

Horribly oppressive.

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Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse

Who'd a thought a church school would require WoW adherence? So odd.

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Participate regularly in church services

A challenge for some of us, to be sure.

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Observe Dress and Grooming Standards

Dammit, I want my beard!

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Use clean language

Dammit, I just said dammit!

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Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code

The infamous "rat out your brethren" clause.

Ashley Sanders is right. The Honor Code is an antiquated, oppressive, and unreasonable standard. It's time Mormon youth stand up for our right to cheat on tests, skip church, sleep around, drink beer, and engage in all around troglodytic behavior.

Who's with me?!

TripletDaddy · 08-08-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

What a bunch of bull. When people say "change the Honor Code" it simply means "let me wear a beard."

Who's with me?!

I am with you. You are right. We should let people wear beards since there is no real reason to do otherwise.

Which is why the honor code needs to be re-drafted.

Just as it was for jeans, sandals, and shorts.

Glad you are with us on this one Tex.

Jim Swarthout · 08-09-2008, 02:19 PM

John Dehlin did an interesting two-part interview with her for the Mormon Stories podcast:

Part 1 -- http://mormonstories.org/podcast/Mor...AshSanders.mp4

Part 2 -- http://mormonstories.org/podcast/Mor...AshSanders.mp4

In the interview, she articulates her objections to the Honor Code.

MikeWaters · 08-09-2008, 02:51 PM

did they repeal the portion prohibiting the "no-bra look"?

If so, that is awesome. More pokies to see.

08-08-2008, 06:38 PM	#1
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	Challenging the Honor Code I wasn't sure if this belonged under Religion, Politics or Current Events since it's applicable to all 3. Anyway, a student at the Sunstone Symposium had the guts to bring this topic up. I applaud her efforts. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3962657 __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

08-09-2008, 02:19 PM	#9
Jim Swarthout Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 143	John Dehlin did an interesting two-part interview with her for the Mormon Stories podcast: Part 1 -- http://mormonstories.org/podcast/Mor...AshSanders.mp4 Part 2 -- http://mormonstories.org/podcast/Mor...AshSanders.mp4 In the interview, she articulates her objections to the Honor Code. __________________ "Reject the basic assumption of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." - Tyler

08-09-2008, 02:51 PM	#10
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	did they repeal the portion prohibiting the "no-bra look"? If so, that is awesome. More pokies to see.