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As the temple recommend renewal date draws nigh....
Seing as how cougarguard.com has become gaychat24/7.com....
Reading that passage from the BYU HC made me wonder......for those that are not supportive of Prop 8 and do not have an issue with homosexuals..... ....does that constitute a sympathy for those groups or individuals whose teaching are contrary to the Church? How would you answer that question in the TR interview? I know the BYU HC is not totally representative of Church policy, but much of it is similar. Since the HC decries "advocacy" as an actionable behavior, I wonder what the Church thinks about those who openly state that they do not support Prop 8, Prop 22, Prop 2, or whatever the local state prop may be? And not just with regards to the Prop 8 issue, but to gay rights groups, in general. If you truly have no problem with them and have sympathy for them, seems like that is something that should be discussed in the TR interview, no?
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My hair length is the example I gave in the other thread. It didn't prevent me from renewing my recommend, but I would be in trouble with the HC committee with my hair the length it is right now. As for your question, I believe that the church would consider you sympathetic to gay marriage if you were actively trying to convince people to vote against Prop 8 in California. If you're not doing that, you could answer the question honestly by saying "no, I'm not sympathetic".
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08-18-2008, 11:34 PM | #3 |
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if you can't decide whether the issue prevents you from being temple worthy, then by all means discuss with with your bishop, stake president, and....church court.
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08-18-2008, 11:55 PM | #4 | |
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As the question implies, one would have to be involved (or sympathize) with groups and/or precepts that contradict teachings or practices of the church itself. One can certainly cross that line in opposing Prop 8, but it isn't de facto.
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It will be interesting to see just how far your bishop will take the ball and run with it, I'm betting in Cali, that nothing will happen. Do that in Provo and you will be looking at a meeting with the stake pres. and it won't be to see if your recommend is being renewed. Good luck with that one, let us know if you have the guts to really "out" yourself as you have so eloquently put it. |
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Nice try to fit us all into your nice little box though, waters, now what? |
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