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07-09-2008, 10:11 PM | #1 |
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About the wolf
I spoke to my father about it. As I have mentioned before, my bloodlines run into Star Valley.
He said that when his mother was growing up, there was a lot of fear of wolves. Due to the destruction they could wreak on very poor families that struggled every year. He said that as a kid, when he visited Star Valley, wolves had been wiped out long before. They were not even a consideration. This would be in the 1950s. .... We are not talking about starving families. We are talking about millionaire ranchers on federal land. Times have changed. And the wolf is back, to stay. |
07-09-2008, 10:27 PM | #2 |
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You throw Star Valley around like it gives you authority. But your use of the term "Millionaire Rancher" betrays you as a fraud and a fake. You have no idea what's going on out in the country. Your father, gone from there these many years, has no idea. You're good friends at the Sierra Club have no idea. Why don't you let those who actually know what the hell they're doing handle matters? Or is that against your liberal big city ethos? The one that drives you to meddle in things beyond your knowing.
Away with you, you're out of your depth here.
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COme on landpoke, we know what's best for you. If you were really smart you wouldn't still be in Wyoming, so let us who have left tell you how to do it.
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Not that it matters, but I'm part of the great Wyoming anaspora. A mighty tidal wave of intelligence and talent that's crashing back into the state. We will not be condescended to.
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See, it's all a persecution complex and the abhorrence of having several interested parties make decisions on a national issue that locals view as a completely local issue. The want everybody gone from the table but themselves.
It's like trying to kick the owner of a house out of the decisionmaking loop for how the house will be run.
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Sometimes persecution complezes arise from real persecution.
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Shows how ignorant you are: the wolf recovery program was not conceived or implemented by snivelly bureaucrats, but by an increidbly large amalgam of groups and voices -- including many ranchers. This is public decisionmaking at its best. It's just that people like Landpoke can't stand -- it almost makes GoatNapper lose his taste for plastic -- the fact that other vested interests took part in the discussion. Interests who are no AWOL in some foreign land, but who have sunk a ton of resources, time, and energy into making the house beautiful. Landpoke's no democrat -- he's an autocrat.
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Btw, there are mnay posts showing how ignorant I am, so you should probabyl try a little harder to insult me.
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Agree that locals should have a large seat at the table. But don't you see that they already do and they already dominate western land use policies? If you don't, then you have some background reading to do. And what really bothers me about people like Landpoke, GN, and Archaea is that they ignore the locals who disagree with them. Anyone who disagrees with them (even the sacred locals) are envirowankers who should be locked out of the discussion, for the only locals who matter are the ranchers. Not to mention the rest of interested Americans who care about how their public lands are managed. They would completely shut them out.
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